Tuesday, September 04, 2007

FIRE TRUCK FALLS APART

WHILE RESPONDING TO A HOUSE FIRE
BREAKING NEWS

A fire truck responding to a house fire on Olive Street in Elyria early this morning lost its rear axle and gas tank on Broad Street near East Bridge. The Firefighters on the truck were all able to escape without injury.

The fire on Olive Street was a fully involved house fire located next to Wolfenden just south of Cleveland Street. The home has been vacant for about one week.

Check back with TMC NEWS for more details as they become available.


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16 Comments:

Blogger Dave said...

Lose a truck and save a basement.

I wonder if anyone would find the missing bolts from that ladder truck in the basement of the burned up house?

Talk about a statement.

8:33 AM  
Anonymous Eric L. said...

Wow. Maybe its time for a new truck instead of a new lawn mower.

9:29 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

let me guess, the city has been trying to save some money & who needs to bother with maintain a truck that just isn't driven all that much, right?

As a resident of Minneapolis I have already seen cheap-screw in action you guys should consider yourself lucky.

4:07 PM  
Anonymous Mel said...

Wow, see what happens when you take the extra weight (4 firefighter) of the back of the truck.

6:52 PM  
Anonymous mark said...

jeez, do these guys use the same mechanics as the local EMS crews...i always see those guys jump starting and trying to peice together their trucks too...lol

12:32 AM  
Blogger Dave said...

Hey Anonymous,

I'm saying that I have an opinion and a theory. And it's entirely possible that a statement could be made by sabotaging your own equipment, en route to a fire, in a district where a station has been closed due to lack of manpower due to abuse of a corrupt overtime system.

Burn the vacant house, disable your backup engine, make a big statement.

It's entirely possible.

Now Mr Anonymous, quit being a sissy and sign your name! I can't believe TMC-News even leaves your posts up!

9:08 AM  
Anonymous jason said...

i love daves theory but. this is elyria. No one is smart enough or quick enough for that. Maybe they are in Minnesota, but not here. Brilliant though

3:47 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Missing Bolts? Is that true?hummmmmmmmm
Randy

4:18 PM  
Blogger KGBFD1 said...

"I can't believe TMC-News even leaves your posts up!"


In my opinion Dave the same could be said about your posts. Nothing but pure non-sense...

5:49 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Yeah, lets sabotage a truck I or my brother firefighters will be riding on. Then drive it on the streets that me or my family may be on where someone could get injured or killed just to make a point. Great theory people. Do you also right comic books? R Haas

2:05 PM  
Blogger Dave said...

KGBFD1,

It's been a rule on this site for a while now not to post anonymous. I'm just following the rules. Plus, I stated that I have an opinion on things. Nothing wrong with sharing it. It's my right. People have the right to just breeze on by and not read my posts. That's all well and good. The people who comment and flame my posts are the ones who feel that they are threatened by what I have to say. They are the ones that deep down inside might just believe what I'm saying, and they don't want too. ---OR--- They are truly EFD personnel that don't want the overtime system to change so that they can keep getting rich.

Everyone blames Grace. That's just silly. The blame rests on the EFD upper brass that allow this overtime system to continue.

2:27 PM  
Anonymous Marilyn R, lifelong resident of Elyria said...

I’m not sure how many of you out there have scanners and listen to our local safety forces but if you don’t, you should get one. It is a good way to hear exactly how busy they are at times.

I was just listening tonight and life care and the fire department were heading to a medical call on the north side of town up by the college. Something happened that I hear very often, after life care operator gives the call to the truck the truck asks for cross streets. Now I understand that this is a fairly large city and there can be some obscure streets or streets where they may not be able to get to a lot. But time and time again these people have no idea where they are going. There have been times that I have heard their operators telling them that they are going the wrong way or have to reguide them back to where they should be. Maybe we should take a look at our ems coverage in our city before one of us older folks need a medic in a critical emergency and they are out driving around in circles. I will also say that 9 times out of 10 when the fire department go on these ems calls they get on scene first and I have never once heard them ask their operator for cross streets or directions. Now I have not made up my mind who is right and who is wrong on this lowering the minimum staffing issue, I am still trying to learn all of the facts and work through the numbers that each side is putting out there. In the meantime I will support the fire department and our mayor and show respect to both. I hope both sides can sit down and work things out. Now would someone buy a Garvin for our ambulances?

Marilyn R, lifelong resident of Elyria

8:37 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Marilyn R. the lifelong resident.

Marilyn, I am glad that you have a scanner, because you know how busy the safety forces are out there. However, you are one of those who really does not know how the systems do work.... Pity... If you are really paying attention, you will hear LifeCare give cross roads, and directions to all calls... no matter where.... this does not mean that the crew is lost, or does not know where they are going... it is thier standard dispatch....there are times that maybe they are in a newer area, or the cross roads may be a short cut to your destination... If you take the time to look at LifeCare's website, you may want to pay attention to thier dispatch center... very costly, and up to date.. they know where the trucks are...all of the squads are gps equipped. they know if the truck is at mc donalds.... I have heard efd have to give directions to thier units from time to time... it is hard to keep up with all the new streets... also did you know that when LifeCare is busy... they have Lorain trucks coming into Elyria to help....and vica versa as needed... Lorain employees I am sure are not as familiar with Elyria as they are Lorain , and the same when Elyria goes into Lorain, Amherst... ect. so while you are sitting comfortably and safely at home in your lazy-boy.. think of what is going on in your city and all of the other cities with the safety forces before you pass your judgement on from you lazy boy..... I am just glad that LifeCare can track thier units... at least I know one will be able to get to me....
singed... another safe citizen at home......

9:44 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

marilyn,

sometimes people make judgements based on just what they hear. You for instance sit at home and listen to the scanner. thats fine but dont knock the ems system. Lifecare has a very high turnover rate meaning that they always have people leaving and they need to replace them with new paramedics. Where as the fire dept. has firefighters responding that have been firefighters with the city for many of years and know the area like the back of their hands. Lifecares turnover rate is high because of the fact that after one year of paramedic training and having to pass one of the top ten most difficult tests in the country they get $9.00 an hour. Paramedics do not get into the job for the money neither do fireman or police officers but its not right when police and fire start off at $47,000 salary and a city pension after 25 years and medics get a measly hourly wage and 401K. I'm not arguing I'm just giving some facts.

Amherst resident

10:50 PM  
Anonymous Marilyn R, lifelong resident of Elyria said...

I will try to respond with slightly more respect for your opinion then you did with mine. First of all, the street tonight that the ambulance had to ask more than once for help with was off of north abbe and is not a new section. That is good that they have all the technology but may I ask you what happens when that fails or doesn’t work one night?

My point is this, I would like people who are charged with saving my life to know how to get to my home in the quickest time possible without begging for cross streets and directions over a radio. Technology has made us all a little bit lazier, maybe the people who are on these ambulances and who have lives in their hands should learn where they are going and how they will get there.

My guess by your tone is that you either work for lifecare or are friends with them, so I won’t expect you to be objective. I am telling you that I hear this all the time and it is disturbing.

One last thing my friend, I would call you by name but you chose to leave your name off of your comment, I do not sit in a lazy boy when I listen to the police scanner, I sit in a wheel chair as I have now for 14 years. I am sorry that I cannot be out and active like you. Listening to the scanner, reading newspapers and online sites like this is the way I keep track of what is going on in the city that I was born and raised in. My comments were not to be mean to the people at the ambulance service, I was just expressing my sincere concerns.

To the person in Amherst, I also cannot call you by name because you didn’t leave one and I am sorry for that, you said; Lifecares turnover rate is high because of the fact that after one year of paramedic training and having to pass one of the top ten most difficult tests in the country. Well, if these people are smart enough to pass one of the hardest tests in the country then they are smart enough to not spend a year of their life in training and taking one of the most difficult tests in the country for a 9 dollar an hour job. Just because someone doesn’t make as much as they feel they should at their job is, in my opinion, no reason to not do their best.

Marilyn R, lifelong resident of Elyria

11:23 PM  
Anonymous ltmedic14 said...

I'm not sure if you received my comment or not so I'm sending it again. Marilyn I thought maybe you would like to hear first hand from a Paramedic. I'm glad you listen to your scanner, this means you know how busy the police, fire and EMS are at all hours of the day and night 24/7. Amherst resident is correct, the medic exam and education is one of the hardest top ten tests in the country. We do not do this job for the money because the pay really sucks. That is why many of us have 2 or 3 other jobs. We do this job because our education and training in this medical field allows us to make a difference and we like that. We enjoy saving lives and helping people who need our help. No the job is not always fun and it's not always easy but when you take pride in what you do you will have job satisfaction and we do. It does not matter the nature of the call every patient I have will get the highest standard of care I can give. That patient will get treated as if he or she were a member of my family. The turn over rate is not just high at Life Care. Life Care has some of the finest EMTs I have ever had the pleasure of working and training with. The turn over rate is high in EMS because new job positions are being offered to us with much better pay than EMS. Many of us go on to further our education and become flight medics, PAs, nurses and teachers not to mention the con ed we have to have to keep our current jobs. Fire, Police and EMS all work together to keep everyone safe. Call 911 and we will be there! ltmedic14

11:21 PM  

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