Wednesday, October 22, 2008

TWO MIDVIEW STUDENTS KILLED

AFTER CRASHING INTO A TREE ON CAPEL
Eaton Township – Two teens were killed this afternoon in a single car crash on West Capel Road in Eaton Township.

Firefighters & Paramedics responded to W. Capel, between Durkee & Route 83, just before 3pm this afternoon after receiving reports of a car that struck a tree. Firefighters from Eaton Township Fire & Rescue found the car in several pieces and the two occupants dead at the scene.

One neighbor, Alex Lyski, heard the sirens ran to see if he could help. “I couldn’t believe what I was seeing, the car was cut in three and as far as the two kids went – there was just nothing anyone could do. There was no way to help.”

Dave Surman said that when they saw the car that was involved, nobody was surprised. “We have seen this car flying up and down this street for awhile now. We have notified the Police about it a couple times because we have been so afraid that something like this would happen. In the mornings you can hear the engine before you even see the car he is going that fast.”

“My wife’s nephew said they passed him coming home and they put the car going at about 90mph at that point. Then he passed a Teacher from Midview just before he struck the tree. I’m just glad it’s not one of them involved, you know that they didn’t hit any of them – or the school bus that was right there.”

Troopers say that the two were Midview High School Students, one a 9th grader and the other a 10th grader. Officials were in the process of notifying the parents.

Check back later for more details and photos from the scene.

73 Comments:

Anonymous Anonymous said...

Again, we have to watch parents bury a child because of kids thinking they are invincible. My heart breaks for the families of these 2 teens.

Thank GOD others were not injured or killed.

My daughters friend goes to school with these 2 boys and its so sad that we know before even their own parents.

5:54 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

The driver was a good kid, he may have driven fast, but he was around cars most of his life and knew how to drive them very well. He will be missed by all

6:08 PM  
Blogger bb said...

this is the nicest kid you'll ever meet. he's helped people out including me and my friends at school.

we will never forget you billy, we love you..

6:26 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

This is SUCH a said story! These young children have to realize these cars are nothing to play with!! It's VERY important that you pay attention and obey the laws when driving! My heart goes out to these two families at this terrible time!

6:42 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Let this serve as another lesson that speeding is a dangerous game to play. Observe the speed limit and be safe.

All my thoughts and prayers are with the families.

6:56 PM  
Anonymous rlm-Lorain said...

Anonymous said "he may have driven fast, but he was around cars most of his life and knew how to drive them very well."

He apparently did not know how to drive them very well or this would never have happened. Please everyone, just slow down. Where are you going that is so darn important that it is worth risking your life or the lives of others?

My thoughts and prayers are with their families and friends during this tragic and sorrowful time. They are going to need the love and support of the entire community.

7:08 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

This is always so very sad to see. How about the 1st responders? My prayers are with them, as they will have to go home tonight knowing the carnage that as humans we should not see. Knowing that the carnage they had to endure when some commone sense could have prevented it! My prayers to the families that will now have to endure this tragedy!!

7:32 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Pass it on ... in honor of these two young men, Midview students will wear white tomorrow to remember them.....

7:38 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

GOVERNORS(60 MPH)ON CARS WITH UNDER 18 YR. OLD DRIVERS.MANDATORY!! THIS IS SO SAD!I DON'T KNOW THE KIDS OR FAMILIES, BUT I'M ....CRYING

7:40 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

This is so sad! I feel so bad for the parents. My thoughts and prayers are with them.

7:41 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

How can you say he was around cars all his life and new how to drive. for gosh sakes at 16 or 17 years old no one has the experience to drive like that. I am a paramedic and former police officer
parents should not have to worry about this kind of nonsense change the driving age to 18.

8:07 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Sad. The driver could have easily, very easily murdered more than his passenger showing off, pretending it made him a man to drive fast with no regard for anyone elses life.

8:08 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

I, too, cannot believe someone would post that this kid knew how to drive well, on a news article of how he killed himself and an innocent passanger with his, very obvious, inexperience behind the wheel of a car. Get serious people. Talk about contradicting yourself.

Thoughts and prayer to all the families involved.

8:45 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

well its sad but better him than one of are loved ones. just got done saying monday one of these days he is going to wreck!!!!

8:52 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

They need to start giving IQ tests before handing out drivers licenses

8:58 PM  
Anonymous James said...

17 years old and around cars his whole life well he couldent drive till he was 15 and a half so whats a whole what 2 and half years... he had a short life due to cars he was around his whole life...

what the hell is the point. take the car to a track... you have a race car take it somewhere... dont be foolish

9:02 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

I agree with the comment to change the driving age to 18.I am a former police officer and have seen this many times.Young people making mistakes because of lack of experience or being careless.I have been driving for many years and have been in some very tense situations while driving.That i know that I could not have handled at such a young age.Please SLOW DOWN life is to short to be in such a hurry.God bless the families of the victims.

9:11 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

This is a very sad day for all of the Midview school children and parents. We are all praying for both of these young mens families, freinds and fellow students who are all wondering why this had to happen. If these kids would stop and think. Please everybody SLOW DOWN AND DRIVE SAFELY! Put your cell phones down and pay attention! God Bless the families and the two young men who have gone on to a better place!

9:12 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

it may be easy to put down the driver but remember his family is also mourning. their were two lives lost and many tore apart. and yes due to reckless thinking or lack of. noone is disputing that. but coming from someone who has lost a son trust me everyone is hurting. my heart and prayers go out to all involved

9:33 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

OK ARE WE FORGETING ALL THE TIMES THIS BOY AND
THE OTHERS THAT HE RACES UP AND DOWN THE STREETS OF GRAFTON & EATON WITH AND WORRY ABOUT ARE OWN LIVES BUT LETS BOO WHO FOR BILLY AND RICH? BETTER THEM KILLING THEMSELVES THAN ANY OF ARE GOOD MIDVIEW CHILDREN WHO RESPECT AND OBEY THE LAWS. I JUST SAW BILLY YESTERDAY RACING DOWN DURKEE POINT SAID R.I.P.

9:37 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

I just want you to know . this driver was a really great kid yeah at times he was being a Man ( showing off by speeding ) but still that is nothing to dewell on he is still a human and you just need to send out ur prayers and wishes to there families

9:45 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

TO EVERYONE OUT THERE ...IF THIS KID RAN INTO YOU AND KILLED YOU,YOUR HUSBAND WIFE,CHILD,BROTHER OR SISTER,MOM OR DAD WOULD YOU STILL SAY,"HE WAS SUCH A GOOD KID.HE WAS A GREAT DRIVER.HES BEEN AROUND CARS ALL HIS LIFE"
WHERE WAS HIS PARENTAL GUIDANCE ALL THESE YEARS AROUND CARS THAT HE WAS HIGHLY QUALIFIED
TO DRIVE

10:09 PM  
Anonymous A Mom who's children were once teenagers. said...

Here again people seem to think that the answer to everything is "change a law, and make new rules, because an individual made a tragic mistake/choice/decision. So every young person should wait until they are 18 to drive? That is the answer to this tragedy? Lets stop being so self righteous and hope that this tragedy will make all of us,teens and adults alike slow down and obey the existing laws.

10:13 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

your a jerk. someones child has lost there life today and thats all you can say? thats a shame...

10:21 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Regardless what these two young boys were doing they took each others lives away from there friends and family. Lets stop and think about the family and all the friends that will miss these kids. We need to support the parents. So please put aside all the remarks and say prayers for the families. God Bless to these kids and families.

10:21 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

People keep saying, "oh better them than me or my loved ones". That's B.S. point-blank, period. Regardless of who it was, there are people out there mourning the loss of these two kids. I understand he was being irresponsible and driving recklessly, but come on now, have some respect for the dead, and the people who love them. Think before you speak, they were someone's kids, grandkids, friends, etc...Two very young people with their whole lives ahead of them are gone, they will never grow up, or experience life...it's such a shame. My heart and prayers go out to the families and friends of these two boys...R.I.P.

Kendra.

10:29 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Before you make any type of negative comment make sure you think back on your youth. I can honestly say I do not know many young people who do not think they are invincible. Yes, he was being irresponsible but, still a very sad an tragic event. I can't ~ nor would want to imagine how their families are feeling today. My heart goes out to them.

10:38 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

these kids in this car sure didnt care about the risk they put others in so why should soom of us on this page feel any differently about how others feel. keep tabs on who you kid hangs out with thats my thoughts and pryers.

10:42 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

My heart goes out to the boys' families, friends, and former Midview students. What a tragic, tragic loss. Prayers going up tonite for all of you.

10:46 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

i'm 19 and yeah, i think i'm invincible. but theres a time and a place for driving like that and its not on public streets. Its called Norwalk Raceway. Thats where i have been going for years and i've been keeping it safe and legal.

11:19 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

this is very sad, honestly. if you are a parent and you are giving your kid a turbo charged car, letting them go to school in a turbo charged car... you know showing off is going to happen no matter what. i mean come on, a cool fast car and a teenager do not mix. im still a teenager and thats one reason why i didnt get one, just to keep my foot out of the accelerator, just my two cents. my thoughts and prayers go out to the families.

11:21 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Iam sorry the young people died.

11:32 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Sounds like this wasn't the first time he has been down this/other roads before. Teens and speed do not mix. Seems like it was going to happen sooner or later.....just like the motorcycles who raced up and down rt. 58 a few years ago around Wellington and crashed into the guard rail on the "s" curves. Teens and speed do not mix. Parents need to be more aware of their children.

11:42 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

I am so sorry for the families involved. I can't imagine the pain. With that said, I can understand the anger some are showing. I have to admit that I am angry. I am angry because I live in the area and this kid could have killed my wife and kids. I am certainly not saying that he deserved any of this. He's just a kid. But to think that he could have killed an innocent family infuriates me. I have seen this car at 57 and Chestnut. When the light turns green you don't want to be in front of him.

Again, to the families...you are in my thoughts. No parent should ever bury their child. To the students of Midview....I am so sorry. Learn from this though. Don't let them die in vain.

12:49 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

This is a very sad story. No one should be judging, that is God's place. I am crying for the families, you cannot control everything that your children do - just hope that some out there take this to heart and realize how fleeting life can be.

12:57 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

I am a father of 2 Midview students one driving and one just about ready and the youngest saw the screen just minutes after the accident and what he described to me of the scene was truly difficult to hear and all I could think about was the families and the pain they will have to deal with forever but over the evening I heard how this persons driving was a regular problem and all I could think was how grateful I was he didn't kill some more/murder innocent bystanders.
Why isn't driving taken more serious?
With all respect to what good he may have done with his life if you wear white to honor him tomorrow you are honoring someone who carelessly murdered another innocent person with is continued reckless behaviour and destroyed many lives of the families involved.
What good could he have done in 17 years that needs honored above this.
Hold you kids and hope a lesson is learned they will never forget and pray this stops others from doing the same

1:56 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

The sad thing is, he posted his "racing in a construction zone" speeding tickets on his myspace page:

http://www.myspace.com/Krakora

2:44 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

This is truely the most terrible thing that could happen to a family its hard enough to lose a loved one but like this you have no goodbye no last I love you no last hug parents should not have to bury their children my thoughts are with the family it will be a long time to recover from this I also have the emergency workers in my thoughts they have just seen an unthinkable sight that will stay with them forever many of them have children the same age they deserve credit for doing their job its a shame that anyone had to witness this also I feel sorry for the man who was first on scene think how helpless he felt being with that child in his last moments and not being able to help him other than just comfort that he knew he wasnt alone at the end

6:54 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

You with the caps lock on...you're being a real jerk. How soon you forget what being a kid is like. We've all done stupid stuff at one point or another. That's not the point. Two sets of parents here are without a kid. I knew Billy, he was a real decent kid. He did know quite a bit about cars, and yeah, maybe he had a fast car and was showing off, but seriously, to be so heartless in your comments? Is that all necessary? Stop and think of his parents reading this....don't you think they are hurting enough?

I know what it's like to lose someone close to you in a tragedy. You blame yourself for little things. All the "I shoulda" and "I coulda" go through your head, but honestly, there wasn't much you could do. I don't have kids, never lost one, but still.

My thoughts are with the families. I'm gonna miss seeing Billy up at Norwalk. I don't think I knew the other kid, but my thoughts are with his family as well.

--Kelly

7:02 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Okay, so I'm sorry the kids died. I would never wish death upon anyone. BUT, seriously, go look at this kids MySpace pictures. He has a picture of his "First ticket going 70 in a 50.Racing In construction zone" (quoted directly from his picture caption)

Screwing around behind the wheel of a vehicle isn't a game. Clearly this kid did this on a regular, and was proud of it. Unfortunately for his family, friends, and fellow classmates, his "pride" got the best of him.

8:23 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

This is so so sad, My heart goes out to the families. Careless & young kids . . . We need to pray for all the families and friends of these young boys. Pull together and be a community that cares - The families will surely need it !! Prayers . . . D & D Liller

8:46 AM  
OpenID tatersmom said...

Why are people using this tradegy as an excuse to place blame on others and to get up on their soap box and preach their believes to us? This isn't the time or place for that. Bottom line is that two families have been forever changed. Two families that will never be whole again. Two families that have to bury CHILDREN. What needs to be happening right now is that the community needs to come to together and pray for these families, the friends, and the rescue workers who have all beed affected and changed by this horrible event. Stop all the hatred and think about the fact that not only have the families lost children but they have to hear and see what people are saying about their loved one. Be respectful. Act like you would want people to act if you were having to bury a child.

10:18 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Two fatal car crashes involving teens, 1 week and 10 miles apart. Is there a message here?

10:21 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Please God, I'm Only Seventeen!
The day I died was an ordinary school day. How I wish I had taken the bus! But I was too cool for the bus. I remember how I wheedled the car out of Mom. "Special Favor," I pleaded. "All the kids drive." When the 2:50 bell rang, I threw my books in the locker. I was free until 8:40 tomorrow morning! I ran to the parking lot, excited at the thought of driving a car and being my own boss. FREE!

It doesn't matter how the accident happened. I was goofing off, driving too fast. Taking crazy chances. But I was enjoying my freedom and having fun. The last thing I remembered was passing an old lady who seemed to be going very slow. I heard a deafening crash and felt a terrible jolt. Glass and steel flew everywhere. My whole body seemed to be turning inside out. I heard myself scream.

Suddenly I awakened: It was very quiet. A police officer was standing over me. Then I saw a doctor. My body was mangled. I was saturated in blood. Pieces of jagged glass were sticking out all over. Strange that I couldn't feel anything.

Hey, don't pull that sheet over my head! I can't be dead. I'm only seventeen. I've got a date tonight. I'm supposed to grow up and have a wonderful life. I haven't lived yet. I can't be dead!

Later I was placed in a drawer. my folks had to identify me. Why did they have to see me like this? Why did I have to look in my Mom's eyes when she faced the most terrible ordeal of her life? Dad suddenly looked like an old man. He told the man in charge, "Yes, that's my son."

The funeral was a weird experience. I saw all my relatives and friends walk toward the casket. They passed by, one by one, and looked at me with the saddest eyes I'd ever seen. Some of my buddies were crying. A few of the girls touched my hand and walked away.

Please--Somebody--Wake me up! Get me out of here! I can't bear to see my parents so broken up. My grandparents are so racked with grief they can hardly walk. My brother and sisters are like zombies. They move like robots. In a daze, everybody! No one can believe this. I don't believe it either.

Please don't bury me, I'm not dead. I have a lot of living to do. I want to laugh and run again. I want to sing and dance. Please don't put me in the ground. I promise if you give me just one more chance, God, I'll be the most careful driver in the whole world. All I want is one more chance!

Please God, I'm only seventeen!

10:50 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

First of all, my deepest sympathies to the families involved. There is nothing worse in life than the death of your child. I speak from personal experience. There is nothing anyone can do or say to comfort you at this time and for quite a long time. Do not let it destroy your family or marriage.Do not try to look for a reason or to find blame. It will only eat you up. To the ones who want to comfort the families....give them time but do not pretend their child never existed.If you remember a story, please ask if you can share it. I felt comforted knowing that people remembered my son and cared enough to let me know. I am crying for these boys, their families and friends and teachers. No one has the right to pass judgement.

11:03 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

I feel bad for the parents, they will probably lose everything, as soon as a lawyer gets a hold of them. A child that age doesn't have any use for a car like that.And by the way where was the parents last night? channel 8 at 11 o'clock said they couldn't release his name cause the parents weren't told yet?

11:38 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

It's not just teens who make dumb mistakes-my husband, 43, had the same turbo-charged car, an SRT-4 with turbo and he thought it had only one speed-fast! None of us would ride in the car with him!! This is truly a tragedy that I hope will impact all the young people at Midview-slow down, pay attention to the road, and use your common sense when getting into a car with anyone else.

12:29 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

I lost my brother 3 years ago in a tragic car accident. He was the passenger of a reckless driver. My heart goes out to the passengers family. I know how they hurt, I know how they will never understand. Please in this time of sadness and grief understand that these were 2 innocent kids. Yes, Billy was speeding way to fast and thought he was invincible in his car. It wouldnt of mattered what kind of car he was in, he loved to race. He should have left it on the tracks, that I do agree with. But any teenager with a fast car would make the same mistake he did. This was a very gruesome and horrible accidents. These families will have to deal with it for the rest of their lives.I just hope that as a fellow Midview graduate that the Midview students today and other local highschool students who drive see this as a lesson. None of us are invincible. Tomorrow may be our last day. That we never know. So please be more careful on the roads. And just so everyone knows, Midview, nor any other local school disricts carry driving programs at their schools. Parents have to go to private driving schools, as a fellow midview graduate and a substitute teacher in the area, i know. So don't blame careless driving on the school. It's not the schools fault. It's the parents who let their children be irresponsible.

12:43 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

My thoughts and prayers to the families. Would not wish this tragedy on anyone.
But yes now is the time to "get up on a soap box", "show blame", "point out mistakes", whatever you wish to call it. Kids and adults who act like kids need to see what the dire consequences of their actions are. Because it will not be too long before someone glorifies what Krakora did in the form of he died doing something he loved, or something equally ignorant. Those who "love speed" need to understand that the place for this "love" is at a race track, speedway, drag strip; and not our roads. Until then I fear more people are going to die from accidents such as this.

1:04 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

I'd like to thank the ones that are sending out thought to the rescue workers, my husband is an EMT/Firefighter and one of the first ones on the scene. He told me last night that he has never seen anything so terrible in all his life. Please continue to pray for them. Thank you

2:37 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

SHAME on all of you who can do nothing but critisize these kids. I am one of the grieving for the passenger of that vehicle. He was an amazing person who could always make me laugh. Richard always had a smile on his face and a great heart. Kids are kids and they will do what they are allowed to get away with. Tell me why, if the racing has been going on for so long on that street and there have been complaints to the police about it. Then why has there not been an officer patroling before and after school. If the parents are not going to stop the kid from driving like that then atleast the police should keep the community safe!

4:30 PM  
Anonymous So sad, so pointless said...

I see a lot of comments on TMC that elevate first responders to hero status for doing their jobs.

A lot of the time I don't agree with that. Yesterday however....

What the first reponders saw yesterday was so gruesome that I can't even begin to tell you how glad I am that they put up barricades to keep people a couple of hundred yards from the scene.

Nobody gets paid enough or recognized enough for witnessing that kind of carnage.

To those who were not there, take your worst image that you can put into your head and magnify it by 1000. You still won't be close, but you are on the way.

First Responders, today I appreciate your work.

4:59 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

To the jerk who asked where the parents were cuz the "news" mentioned they couldn't release the names cuz weren't told yet, theres steps that have to be followed before releasing names and if you so news savvy you would also know they couldn't recognize the one boy and he didn't have id on him and for the driver his parents were there at the scene. The bashing has to stop. People are hurting. Even if Billy made bad decisions about his driving he didn't drserve this nor did his parents, best friend,family OR Richard and his family. Making comments about lawyers and such is just hateful. GOD SPEED!!! rip billy and richard. And finally I hope all the hateful people never have anything bad happen to you cuz it would be horrible for you and your loved ones to have to read what comments might be left for you.

5:12 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

ONLY THE GOOD DIE YOUNG

5:33 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Not bad. It took 40 comments for someone to insinuate that the reports of speeding on the road by this young man may not be true; AND to blame the police.
This road is patroled by police, as my daughter has been ticketed for speeding by OSP. She deserved the ticket.
And I do not believe anyone is bashing the driver as much as his actions. I went to this young man's myspace, saw the ticket and the pictures of the back of his car with comments of "all your gonna be seeing" and "get use to the look". The implications to the pictures and comments is obvious.
And no where in the comments have I seen anyone bashing the passenger.
Unfortunately two young men are not longer with us, unforturnately due to the actions of the driver.
My heart goes out the parents of both young men; but we cannot ignore the cause of the accident because he was a "good boy".

6:07 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Ok this comment from "it was the worst I've ever seen story".

Anonymous said...
Well it lookes like he died in something he loved doing. I am sure he is happy that he passed doing something he loved rather then something dumb. I am sure he didnt wanted anything bad to happen to anyone!

6:01 PM

Are you out of your mind poster? The something he loved was something dumb to be done on a road. 2 people are dead. You can not possibly have a brain or common sense. My god.

7:15 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

My heart goes out the family and friends of these two young men.

Also my thoughts are with those first responders that put on their lights and sirens to find what will be the most horrific scene of their careers. Please remember folks, the men and woman from the Eaton Township Fire Department that showed up there yesterday afternoon are volunteers. I can tell you over the years I have heard some whoppers, as my father and brother are both on the department. I know from experience when they don't talk about an accident or a fire it is the worst. Let's just say there hasn't been much said.

Thank you for your service...it is appreciated, please keep up the good work. You are in my prayers!

10:29 PM  
Blogger Kathy said...

I wonder sometimes what has happened to people today! I say this, from what was witnessed at that accident scene the only thing to say is God Bless the families of these two young children! My heart goes out to all of you! I feel just as much pain for your losses! And for the rest of you who are crudely judging this young child and his friend, shame on you!! You have forgotten your youth, and certainly I hope none of your children ever make a mistake that cannot be taken back, because I am sure you would NOT want anyone to tal about your child this way!!!!! Again Terry we appreciate you always!!!!

12:20 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

if so many people knew he drove like a speed demon and others repeatedly saw and/or heard him speeding in his car. why didn't they phone the school? the police? get a plate number? tell his parents?
after he got his speeding ticket did anyone think he needed to be stopped? did any adult ever check out his myspace?

12:23 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

You know you guys really need to stop all the f****** bulls*** and criticizing about this. THE POINT IS THAT TWO STUDENT,TWO FRIENDS,TWO SONS,TWO MIDDIES are dead and all you guys have nothing to say but criticize my fellow student that past on wednesday.you guys should be ashamed of yourselves. They should not of been driving so fast its common sence of course but so is wiping your ass what if i wipe my ass a different way i'm gonna get criticized.they said in one of the resent comments that he was around cars all his life and loved them really well. that doesn't nessacerily mean he was driving them he just basicly knew a little bit more than nessacery.

3:46 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

nice to know there are people like Kathy out there with some compassion,common sense,and an open mind.

4:20 PM  
Anonymous Jesse aka tow mater said...

I am a tow truck driver i too know what its like to see that kind of stuff, my stomach gets sour when i see really bad accidents like this one, i wasn't there when it happened i went to the scene thursday after work and pictured the accident in my head, it hurts me alot that young kids think that the are god when they have there license, go how ever fast they want tailgate people especially when they TAIL GATE a tow truck which is just as bad as tailgating a cop, big no no. anyway i agree with the one about the eaton towinship firefighters and emts these are normal people like me and you that are trained for this stuff they volunteer to come to our rescue when we need them whether it be cut us out of our cars run us to the hospital or put out the fire in our house. these men and women are all volunteer so when you see one whether at the store or when you go by the station on route 82+83 stop and say thank you. AND as for the driving age i too think they should change it to 18yrs old that way they can get training all the way until they are 18 then get there license so they will know how to drive when they are old enough to vote. amen...

thought and prays for the families in the tragic time.. and god bless the eaton township F.D. hooorah!

6:05 PM  
Anonymous Shanna C.-Eaton Twp. said...

As God called home two of His angels on this very tradegic day for our entire town, school district, and families, it leaves an empty void in our hearts that no one ever can replace. As a graduate and former student of Midview along with a lifelong member of Eaton Township, I would like to say this to everyone from family and friends to members of the Eaton Township Fire and Rescue Department, please remember each day is a day to enjoy, love, and be thankful for those that we love, so everyday as you set out on your daily duties take that extra minute to tell those that you love how much they mean to you and that no matter how the day has started when you come home to each other that night that it is another blessing from God to be together as a family again. I have many a family members who go to school with these two young men and I have an uncle and little brother on the Eaton Township Fire and Rescue Department along with the rest of the members that have gotten so close to my heart and my family's that I would like to say every day as you take your journey there is a prayer for you to make it safe to your destinantion near and far, may God hold you in His arms and carry you through all the rest of your days. These young men lost their lives in such a tradegic incident but, to never be forgotten with the impact that was made on all of our lives. Once again to Eaton Township Fire and Rescue Department, I wish to say Thank You and I Love You all, you have saved my life many of times and have taken that time out of your lives with your family and friends to come to the aid of myself and other family members without you where we would be is not known for sure but, I do know on this day that you witnessed something so horrible that God was with you as always because you too are His angels that walk this life just as everyone else does, unseen and most times unheard until it is a time of need. You all of our fire department will always be honored and praised because you dedicate more than your life to our town and surrounding towns with more love and help to give to all that are in need.

I wish to both families to give you my deepest sympathies, love, care and most of all prayers that you will be comforted knowing that God gave your sons,grandsons, brothers, cousins, and friends wings to fly into a land free of pain, misery, and full of love for two souls that had just began their lives to make an impact on this world. They may be taken from this world on the wings of angels but, never will be taken from your hearts or nobody elses because they are and were apart of each and everyone of us...

9:56 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

I to was one of the first responders on scene, as a matter of fact I was one of the first on scene. Words can’t express the carnage that was there nothing could ever compare to this. For people to set and place blame on everyone else from the law enforcement to the parents is wrong. Nothing was going to stop this from happening it was what he wanted to do. Nothing anyone said or did was going to stop him. Yes maybe there should have been law enforcement there but can they be everywhere at once no. I see posts on here from people who say things like “he died doing what he loved, or he was around cars all his life and he was a good driver.” Come on people lets think about what we say this was a child. He had only been driving for what two years what kind of experience could he have. So what if his brother and him raced at the drag strip then he should have known better. When are we going to stop trying to blame everyone else and start blaming the one that causes the tragedy. Yes this is a great loss and my heart goes out to the family of both “kids.” But when it comes right down to it there is no one else to blame but the one that got behind the wheel of that car, turned it on ,and made the choice to go that fast . Not the police, not his parents, but him and him alone. My heart brakes every time I think of what happened that afternoon life is so short. Moms, dads let’s take the time to talk to our kids and tell them how much we love them.

1:40 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

As a community, we need to be here for the children who considered these boys their friends. Shame on those who see the seconds of that fatal crash as a representation of the two lives that were lost. Billy and Richard each had 17 years of life before that moment of impact! Each were someones child, grandchild, brother, friend, cousin, each were important and loved by so many!These boys leave behind hundreds of people who are hurting and mourning. We failed as a community to stop this from happening. When all is said and done; we must be vigilant and take those extra few minutes to bring attention to the "kids that drive crazy", people who said they "saw this coming", "he drove like a maniac" ect... make a promise to yourself to be vigilant and do everything you can to report these incidents. About 4 hours before these boys died I had an incident with a young man coming off of Capel and blowing the stop sign at 57. The morning after; it dawned on me that that young man could be the "next Billy", I could only provide a Time, possible car make, color of vehicle and it was a white male with short hair. I emailed this to the principals and they have narrowed it to 3 kids, and are speaking to them all! My heartfelt sympathies to the families who will never be complete again, the students of Midview High. As we move forward, let us not forget the lesson our children have learned the hard way. As a community we should be looking for ways to make our children safe, not degrading the parents of those two boys that we as a community have failed! Report plate numbers, names if you know them and do what you can to prevent our community from losing another child this way!

3:52 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

This is absolutely the hardest thing to read. Billy is a family member to my boyfriend. Billy WAS a very nice person and very friendly. But as like most of you should remember what it was like for you when you were 17, he thought he was invincible. EVERY teen does SOMETHING stupid. But Billy lost his life doing it. And worse, his friend lost his. I'm not going to sit here and say that Billy took Rich's life. He didn't. Rich, among almost everyone else in that little town, KNEW how Billy drove. Rich chose to get in that car. And I can already visualize what they were saying and doing before he lost control. Laughing, screaming go faster, living life LITERALLY in the fast lane. They were kids and kids make horrible and occasionally deadly decisions. I've told Billy to slow down. I even said "you're going to kill yourself or even somebody else". But what teenager actually listens? And for those of you who want to disrespect his parents...his father is dead. Suicide. His mother, is a VERY good mother who loves both of her sons more than most would. All three were extremely close to each other. She's a wonderful woman who has to endure in burying her youngest son. You don't think she is crying over what happened?! She is! She's crying over Rich, and how this could've been prevented and I'm sure she's running the "what ifs and I should'ves" through her head! Show some type of decency at least for his family. I'm so furious in reading these comments. He is part of my family. My 2 year old looks just like him! This is real. Billy is gone. I'm not sticking up for what he's done, because I knew it would happen. I was just hoping that it wasn't deadly. And yes he's been around racing for years. But in NO WAY was he experienced racer. An experienced, true, professional, racer WOULD NOT DRIVE THAT WAY ON CIVILIAN ROADS! That's why they have racetracks. Just please show some type of compassion towards Billy, Rich, and all family members mourning. Yes it's sad, yes it's his fault. You don't think he paid for it?! Billy's gone! We'll never see him again. The best thing about a mistake is learning from it and he'll never be able to learn from his mistakes. I think that's enough punishment and he NOR his family need to hear everyone's opinions about him "deserving" it! NO KID DESERVES TO DIE!!!! RIP Billy. We all love you no matter what happened. I just wish you would've listened. =(

3:12 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

A poster wrote "almost everyone else in that little town, KNEW how Billy drove". Couple this with Billy's myspace. This does not paint the picture of a good kid who made one stupid mistake. Between the posts on this site and people who said they know the car and driver and his actions as being anything but legal; and you have anything but a good boy. You have a history of misbehavior.

11:35 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Terry and all reading and writing. It appears that everyone commenting seems to be having feelings of sympathy, and with that comes emotions from anger to sadness. People who knew these two young men and those who did not. In a way everyone is right in their own way. These two young men paid the ultimate price for a mistake, whether it was there first or hundreth mistake. One that will not be made again. Now the families and friends of these two are paying the highest price for their mistake. Everyone needs to "vent" in a way they feel they can and your website is the place right now for that. If one good thing comes out of this horrific accident and prevents one more teen or person to become another fatality on our roads than maybe this site and comments are worth it. Billy and rich, nor for that matter, Molly from Keystone, are not capable to learn and live to experience another mistake, or laughing with families and friends. What we all need to do is be thankful for the ones in our lives now. Give your children or parents another hug and say I love you and be glad you can. Everyone learn that you are still blessed and have that oppertunity to laugh, talk, hold one another, and learn from peoples mistakes. Slow down and enjoy what you have been given and still get to enjoy. These young people can never do that again. My heart felt sympathies and thoughts go out to everyone involved in these accidents. Molly, Rachel, and Ethan, family and friends, you have not been forgotten either. God bless you all. For Ethan and Rachel, I hope you are healing both physically and mentally and my thoughts and prayers are with you also.
AS for all first responders, I hope you are finding some type of peace with your family and friends. God bless you all. You are never forgotten.

9:19 AM  
Anonymous Heather said...

Ok I really hope someone can answer me. I was hoping the girl whose boyfriend was related to Billy could. Did he live on Robson Rd?

11:37 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

here's a thought.....if Billy had lived and his passenger had not, Billy could be charged with vehicular homicide....

3:13 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Really? Well guess what? He didn't live. Infact-they buried 17 year old Billy today and his passenger-his friend- Saturday. So maybe, just maybe it's time for all of the critism-finger pointing-blaming-speculating and "what if's" to stop. There is nothing anyone can do now but comfort the family, friends and classmates of these 2 young boys that lost their lives. Take care of the people that have been left behind. Show some compassion. This event has effected an entire community. It's time to heal.

3:48 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Yes these two young men were buried. Entirely due to the driver's unchecked reckless driving. There is more to do than comfort the family, and friends who from the posts here knew what the driver was like. We need to learn from this incident; and use it to teach other kids and adults who act like kids. It is not time to heal. It is time for everyone to take some action; call the local police when you see driving like this; support your police when they do their jobs enforcing the law; parents do not blame the police when your child gets a ticket or has contact with the police, they don't single out your child just for fun, there is always a reason. Again let's learn from this tragedy and SUPPORT law enforcement.

11:49 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

no he didn't live on robson

11:24 AM  

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