CRASH SEND 3 TO ALLEN HOSPITAL
“I saw the red car stopped on the road, they were waiting to turn into this parking lot then I noticed them backing up at that point I veered to the right. That is when I heard the crash. When I looked over I saw the truck sliding and rolling so I pulled over cause I was afraid I might get hit.”
Those are the words of a driver who witnessed a two car crash on Rt. 58 just north of Rt. 303 this afternoon. The Wellington Fire District responded and secured the scene for the Paramedics from Central Lorain County Ambulance District. Firefighters and Paramedics treated the victims before they were transported to Allen Memorial Hospital Emergency room. Ed Morgan who was selling fresh produce on Rt. 58 right where the crashed occurred said he heard the crash and quickly went to the scene to see if he could help.
“I went over to the truck that was on its side, I was able to talk to the lady inside and when I discovered that she was alert and talking I got some people that were there with me and we rolled the car back on its wheels. After we got it flipped back over I took the fuses out of the car so a fire wouldn’t start, and the horn was blowin too.”
posted by TMC NEWS at 6:55 PM
12 Comments:
Nice job TMC News. It's very nice to see that there were good citizens out there who wanted to help out. However, I wonder if Mr. Morgan has any idea how much damage he could have done to himself or the person in the vehicle. They rolled the vehicle over with the patient still inside of the vehicle. I wonder how Mr. Morgan would feel if that person in the car was paralyzed for the rest of their life due to his careless and reckless behavior. Good samaritan's are wonderful!!! But please be smart. Let the professionals do their job that they train endlessly at to ensure the optimal outcomes for patients. Firefighters wear turnout gear and utilize specialized tools for extrication for a reason. Paramedics make sure the neck is stabilized for a reason. The Wellington Fire Department and Central Lorain County Ambulance District have that specialized training and are outstanding at what they do!!!
as a Paramedic myself, it is the norm for good samaritans to try and help before we get there. I hardly feel like Mr Morgan was "reckless" or "careless". Lighten up on the poor guy, for pete's sake. Its pretty hard to watch an accident and sit there selling veggies when you know there are people in the car and they are hurt. You act as though he stole some of your thunder! Those departments are tone out departments anyways, and they have to respond to their station and THEN to the accident....its not as fast as a staffed full time department. KUDOS to YOU Mr Morgan!!!
Oops.... Anonymous, you may want to check your facts. The ambulance is a full-time department and the fire department has staffed hours. It's sad to see that you claim to be a paramedic, yet would say that flipping over a car with someone in it still is a good deed. Think of that if that was your father or mother and they had severe injuries that were made worse by flipping the vehicle over.
Anonymous, glad you stated your were anonymous. Why would you not check your facts about those departments before you would go spouting off?
I'm not a paramedic or a good samaritan...so there....
I agree with anonymous that is a Paramedic 100%. I think Mr morgan did a good thing. since there are so many "WHAT IF'S what if the car was on fire and your mother or father was in there and the only way to get them out was to flip the car over would have wanted Mr. Morgan to just stand by and let you mother or father burn alive? I personally would want Mr Morgan to be there if it was my family and to offer his help. I would take a paralyzed for life family member over a "DEAD ONE" anyday.
I never cease to be amazed at the ignorance of people.......easy to say it's ok, until it's your relative that suffers a permanent injury from someone who "thought" they were doing the right thing, when in reality they made a situation worse.
If they are staffed full time, why do they have to be toned out? (fire dept?) That means they have to respond from their homes, to the station to get the equipment. I have been in EMS For 2+ yrs and arguing about people getting others out of cars and buildings isnt gonna stop a bystander from doing it....
Well stop the presses, the last anonymous person has been in ems for 2+ years. What does the plus mean? Is that like my 4 year old daughter correcting me by saying she is 4 and a half. If you have been in EMS for 2 years then I suppose you know it all. Sorry, 2+ years in ems.
The long and short of it is that it is dangerous to do what the man did. I don't think anyone on here has said the man should be shot or charged with any crime, just explaining why it is dangerous and why you should wait for the professionals. Also, all you idiots who still whine and cry about departments being toned out, how much time elapsed from the time of the first call from the time they arrived on scene? Do you know? Of course not, you just want to come on this site and act like big shots and spread your hate. Here's an idea SIGN YOUR NAME the next time you write.
I happen to know for a fact,(as I am in the biz) there can be a big lapse in time between when the tones drop and when the wheels roll, darlin. They have 4 minutes to acknowledge the tone and then it is retoned....then they have 4 more minutes to respond to that and THEN it goes to mutual aid after that. Its not common to go 8 minutes, but it CAN and still does happen. County protocol, baby. Not saying it did in this case, either. And, it was 20+ yrs, I couldnt edit my comment. People will get others out of cars, it happens daily. Is it wrong, yes. But give the guy a break! He is elderly and rippin him a new one because he was careless and reckless is uncalled for. Personally? It peeves me more when I go to a nursing home and find out a patient has a hip fracture and the staff(who is supposedly educated) picks them up and puts them back to bed!
Marcia--- before you go commenting, you might want to check on the response times for the Wellington Fire District and Central Lorain County Ambulance District. You might be surprised to learn how quick the responses are. The EMS service is a full-time on-duty organization. I have never heard of Wellington Fire District needing a retone, so unfortunately, yet again here is someone spreading, as Jeff put it, hatred and untruths.
anon..you may want to reread *my* post..I didnt say that there was a tone and retone in that case, at all. Merely pointing out the facts of how living in a township means you have tone out depts. Not spreading untruths at all. Wellington is one of the better in the county for response times, but even then, they cover a huge area as opposed to other twps and it still takes time to get there!
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